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Reply #100 on: June 22, 2022, 08:51:40 AM
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tanadog
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Looks like Manu has some issue this morning, heading off course to El Vado. Road seams to be paved here so maybe a mechanical?
Seems Manu was stopped on the side of the road when Jeff came by....from their speed looks like they are walking. Diner seems likely, though I see Jeff at the RV park now. With Jeff with him I'm wondering if it's a health-related issue |
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #101 on: June 22, 2022, 09:05:23 AM
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tanadog
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« Reply #101 on: June 22, 2022, 09:05:23 AM » |
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Ouch - looks like real a slog!!!
Could be sandy washes, his low speeds seem to correlate with crossing arroyos |
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #102 on: June 22, 2022, 09:33:58 AM
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ScottM
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« Reply #102 on: June 22, 2022, 09:33:58 AM » |
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Seems Manu was stopped on the side of the road when Jeff came by....from their speed looks like they are walking. Diner seems likely, though I see Jeff at the RV park now. With Jeff with him I'm wondering if it's a health-related issue
Interesting, good sleuthing. I would have thought the road around the reservoir would be more mud prone or less improved but he made good time there. It's a lesser road than where he slowed/stopped, but more important than road improvement is a change in soil type, which may be what happens there. Plenty of rain for everyone in NM right now. |
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #103 on: June 22, 2022, 12:03:56 PM
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tanadog
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« Reply #103 on: June 22, 2022, 12:03:56 PM » |
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CfHkYmXMsWD/ From Manu :Mud, official reroute in place. Backtrack To Hwy 84 then 96 to Cuba. see Manu's IG for more
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #104 on: June 22, 2022, 02:43:32 PM
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tlane3of6
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« Reply #104 on: June 22, 2022, 02:43:32 PM » |
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I don't recall ever having a reroute due to MUD. Has this happened before?
Doesn't look like Adrien received word of this reroute.
What happens after Cuba? Looks like Sofiane has dealt with his share of mud today.
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #105 on: June 22, 2022, 02:44:10 PM
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« Reply #105 on: June 22, 2022, 02:44:10 PM » |
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I have a little off the grid place east of Pie Town outside of Magdalena and my neighbors sent me some photos yesterday of washed out roads and culverts so that area got hammered. But with the monsoon one spot can get hammered and a mile away it is dry. The year that the tail end of Hurricane Bud hit New Mexico I was riding South from Pie Town and a guy with a Cat Trike was heading North. His tracks told the story, every 50 feet there were hand fulls of mud.
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #106 on: June 22, 2022, 02:56:41 PM
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« Reply #106 on: June 22, 2022, 02:56:41 PM » |
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BROOM, 30-day dot/marker:
I may have missed this somewhere, but I haven't seen the 'BROOM/s' before on the Tour Divide Trackleaders map.
Previously there were 25, 30-day markers and riders behind these dots turned 'white' i.e. touring. I thought touring was less than a 90-mile-per-day average. There are 2 brooms, one for women (90 miles per day average) and the other for men (100 miles per day average). My questions are:
1) Is this a new rule i.e. 90/100 women/men?
2) Is there a reason for removing the 25-day, and 30-day dot when the men/women, men ss/women ss (single speed) record dots are still showing?
3) I assume if anyone overtakes the women/men broom their dot will return to pink/blue (SOBO)?
Thanks - hopefully, someone can shed some light on the above.......
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #107 on: June 22, 2022, 03:01:15 PM
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CaptainZag
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« Reply #107 on: June 22, 2022, 03:01:15 PM » |
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Out of interest. Will there be an official reroute announced to all riders for this? GPX file update? Or is it a very temporary reroute due to the current weather? Sorry for all the questions... |
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #108 on: June 22, 2022, 06:37:51 PM
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Katie_watson
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« Reply #108 on: June 22, 2022, 06:37:51 PM » |
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Zoe is scratching?! As per her IG story... I scratched in Del Norte when I raced because my heart wasn't in it anymore so I totally get it... Still wanted to see how fast she would go though! Oh well, I'm glad she's following her instincts.
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #109 on: June 22, 2022, 07:09:53 PM
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ScottM
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« Reply #109 on: June 22, 2022, 07:09:53 PM » |
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I don't recall ever having a reroute due to MUD. Has this happened before?
Doesn't look like Adrien received word of this reroute.
What happens after Cuba? Looks like Sofiane has dealt with his share of mud today.
Orange line for the paved detours will be on the tracker shortly. Every year there's been a 'potential mud' detour on the section Sofiane rode today. TD is reverting to pavement on that and the new Chama/NM112 route due to the conditions Manu encountered today and the wet forecast through the weekend. |
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #110 on: June 22, 2022, 07:13:13 PM
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ScottM
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« Reply #110 on: June 22, 2022, 07:13:13 PM » |
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BROOM, 30-day dot/marker:
I may have missed this somewhere, but I haven't seen the 'BROOM/s' before on the Tour Divide Trackleaders map.
Previously there were 25, 30-day markers and riders behind these dots turned 'white' i.e. touring. I thought touring was less than a 90-mile-per-day average. There are 2 brooms, one for women (90 miles per day average) and the other for men (100 miles per day average). My questions are:
1) Is this a new rule i.e. 90/100 women/men?
2) Is there a reason for removing the 25-day, and 30-day dot when the men/women, men ss/women ss (single speed) record dots are still showing?
3) I assume if anyone overtakes the women/men broom their dot will return to pink/blue (SOBO)?
Thanks - hopefully, someone can shed some light on the above.......
Not really a new rule, no. It's been in the confirmation of understanding for years (about what touring pace is) and some years dots were turned white manually. This year it's automatic, so yes, riders can go back to blue/pink if they get ahead of the brooms. A few riders did just that this evening. Unfortunately the brooms don't sleep so they will likely get passed back tonight... It's a TDF / road racing term, for those that haven't heard it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broom_wagonReally hope it functions as a motivator for folks out there. That's the goal. Keep ahead of the Broom Wagon!!! |
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #111 on: June 22, 2022, 07:18:36 PM
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ScottM
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« Reply #111 on: June 22, 2022, 07:18:36 PM » |
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Out of interest. Will there be an official reroute announced to all riders for this? GPX file update? Or is it a very temporary reroute due to the current weather?
Sorry for all the questions...
Info sent out to riders, yes. Permanent allowed detour... as permanent as anything is in this year's TD, anyway. |
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #112 on: June 23, 2022, 12:28:37 AM
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Buccaneer
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« Reply #112 on: June 23, 2022, 12:28:37 AM » |
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Not really a new rule, no. It's been in the confirmation of understanding for years (about what touring pace is) and some years dots were turned white manually. This year it's automatic, so yes, riders can go back to blue/pink if they get ahead of the brooms. A few riders did just that this evening. Unfortunately the brooms don't sleep so they will likely get passed back tonight... It's a TDF / road racing term, for those that haven't heard it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broom_wagonReally hope it functions as a motivator for folks out there. That's the goal. Keep ahead of the Broom Wagon!!! So is it 90/100 for women/men? |
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #113 on: June 23, 2022, 01:51:08 AM
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« Reply #113 on: June 23, 2022, 01:51:08 AM » |
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Zoe is scratching?! As per her IG story... I scratched in Del Norte when I raced because my heart wasn't in it anymore so I totally get it... Still wanted to see how fast she would go though! Oh well, I'm glad she's following her instincts.
I tried to find that instagram story but it seems deleted. |
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #114 on: June 23, 2022, 05:33:13 AM
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Katie_watson
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« Reply #114 on: June 23, 2022, 05:33:13 AM » |
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I tried to find that instagram story but it seems deleted.
Oh darn it! Yeah she was just talking about how she doesn't care to see the route again and it's not exciting for her and how it wouldn't be hard to stay ahead of Ana and didn't really care about winning... And also that she has been feeling like crap the whole time but didn't want the rain mud and snow to win... |
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #115 on: June 23, 2022, 06:03:11 AM
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #116 on: June 23, 2022, 07:46:23 AM
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ScottM
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« Reply #116 on: June 23, 2022, 07:46:23 AM » |
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So is it 90/100 for women/men?
Just dropped to 85/95 in a nod to the slow start. Everyone will gain on it in NM with the paved detours now. |
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Reply #117 on: June 23, 2022, 08:02:04 AM
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WatermelonSugar
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« Reply #117 on: June 23, 2022, 08:02:04 AM » |
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Looks like Sophiane's sleeping in today. He must want some pie!
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #118 on: June 23, 2022, 07:41:51 PM
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ScottM
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« Reply #118 on: June 23, 2022, 07:41:51 PM » |
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With Zoe out there's a really good race between Katie and Ana developing. Looking at the race flow it would appear Ana rode faster yesterday but Katie made up ground today. Right now Ana is one climb ahead (Marshall Pass). Granted, that's a long one!
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Topic Name: Tour Divide 2022 - Race Discussion
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Reply #119 on: June 24, 2022, 03:33:06 PM
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tlane3of6
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« Reply #119 on: June 24, 2022, 03:33:06 PM » |
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Looks like Manu missed a turn. I assume they have not been following their gps tracks for many miles so how will he even know before he gets to Silver City, if then?
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