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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #100 on: January 31, 2018, 04:57:28 PM
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« Reply #100 on: January 31, 2018, 04:57:28 PM »



Scott will post the 2018 updated files there much closer to the race date.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #101 on: February 01, 2018, 02:36:18 PM
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« Reply #101 on: February 01, 2018, 02:36:18 PM »

Its a good bet that the 2017 maps will be very similar to 2018. The story is that bridge outages on the upper Flathead road wont be corrected until 2019, so Koko Calamity will still be in the mix and it appears that the other major diversion around Rawlins will still be with us as well.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #102 on: February 01, 2018, 03:41:22 PM
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« Reply #102 on: February 01, 2018, 03:41:22 PM »

Its a good bet that the 2017 maps will be very similar to 2018. The story is that bridge outages on the upper Flathead road wont be corrected until 2019, so Koko Calamity will still be in the mix and it appears that the other major diversion around Rawlins will still be with us as well.

Matthew says there will be an additional reroute due to wildlife (bear) closure of the Spray Reservoir road.  Apparently part of the High Country Trail will be used.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #103 on: February 02, 2018, 06:21:30 AM
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« Reply #103 on: February 02, 2018, 06:21:30 AM »

I found this map on the ACA Addenda for the GDMBR:
https://www.adventurecycling.org/default/assets/File/Routes_Maps/Addenda/GDMBR_Canada_Map%20A_Detour_2017.pdf

There is a link for it on the Canada map section
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #104 on: February 02, 2018, 09:07:19 AM
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« Reply #104 on: February 02, 2018, 09:07:19 AM »


A little PSA... The High Rockies Trail re-route will add a significant amount of time to Boulton Creek. Especially with a fully laden bikepacking rig.  Plan accordingly!
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #105 on: February 02, 2018, 10:35:13 AM
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« Reply #105 on: February 02, 2018, 10:35:13 AM »

A little PSA... The High Rockies Trail re-route will add a significant amount of time to Boulton Creek. Especially with a fully laden bikepacking rig.  Plan accordingly!

Particularly as Matthew has hinted on using parts of the HRT all the way to Boulton Creek and perhaps beyond.  What is the HRT like?  I assume a single-track hiking trail, in which case 150+ bikes in a row could be interesting!
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #106 on: February 02, 2018, 12:04:53 PM
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« Reply #106 on: February 02, 2018, 12:04:53 PM »

By the time folks reach HRT, there won't be much of a peloton.  Trail is wide enough - not tight single track.  It's just relentless, short, steep, rough up and down.  Day 1 on the GDMBR is gonna be a real gut check for all those who dare...
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #107 on: February 02, 2018, 01:02:45 PM
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« Reply #107 on: February 02, 2018, 01:02:45 PM »

If it's rerouted as shown in the ACA addenda, it shouldn't be too bad. It's a well-built trail that spits out to the same place on the dirt road highway. It's a little shorter, and it will take a little more time. I'll take a little extra singletrack. If we stay on the HRT all the way to Bolton, then I think we're looking at a much longer haul. Unfortunately, everything is rumor until we get very close to the GD.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #108 on: February 03, 2018, 05:17:00 PM
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« Reply #108 on: February 03, 2018, 05:17:00 PM »

A lot of Salsa's on the list, way more than other brands:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wgily7rwXq0G5OaC_IeXllI-VzZEcIBY6HugfQ3UzQs/edit#gid=2026310916
No Salsa Timberjack's though - That would be my choice.



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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #109 on: February 03, 2018, 07:46:27 PM
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« Reply #109 on: February 03, 2018, 07:46:27 PM »

A lot of Salsa's on the list, way more than other brands
Look at all those Cutthroat's!

How do people feel about visitation along the route these days? I know it can be considered support (albeit, not 'direct' support) and it can be an unfair advantage on those people who do not live along the route.




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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #110 on: February 04, 2018, 04:08:38 AM
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« Reply #110 on: February 04, 2018, 04:08:38 AM »

Look at all those Cutthroat's!

How do people feel about visitation along the route these days? I know it can be considered support (albeit, not 'direct' support) and it can be an unfair advantage on those people who do not live along the route.



Interesting question, in that it brings in the subject of what sort of control is exercised in an "underground" race.  Visitation is not allowed according to the official rules http://tourdivide.org/the_rules :

"Visitation: Divide racing is not intended to be a spectator sport! However, route-town locals only may interact with (i.e. visit briefly, cheer on) thru-racers as they pass through their locale. Out-of-town visitation to the GDMBR mid-race from challengers' family or friends—even if only a  'loosely-planned', remote possibility for rider rendezvous—is prohibited"
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #111 on: February 04, 2018, 08:57:01 AM
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« Reply #111 on: February 04, 2018, 08:57:01 AM »

Quite a few 29+’s as well.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #112 on: February 04, 2018, 09:17:40 AM
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« Reply #112 on: February 04, 2018, 09:17:40 AM »

Interesting question, in that it brings in the subject of what sort of control is exercised in an "underground" race.  Visitation is not allowed according to the official rules http://tourdivide.org/the_rules :

"Visitation: Divide racing is not intended to be a spectator sport! However, route-town locals only may interact with (i.e. visit briefly, cheer on) thru-racers as they pass through their locale. Out-of-town visitation to the GDMBR mid-race from challengers' family or friends—even if only a  'loosely-planned', remote possibility for rider rendezvous—is prohibited"

In the movie Ride the Divide, didn't Mary's sister come out to see her and cheer her up? Shouldn't she have been relegated, according to the rules?
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #113 on: February 04, 2018, 09:25:43 AM
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« Reply #113 on: February 04, 2018, 09:25:43 AM »

In the movie Ride the Divide, didn't Mary's sister come out to see her and cheer her up? Shouldn't she have been relegated, according to the rules?

That rule came after that race.

My point is more this:  The Great Divide Mountain Bike Route is a construct of the ACA and uses public roads and trails.  ANYONE can use the GDMBR to tour, fast tour, or race.  If one chooses to do their own time trial or to race with friends, they can make whatever rules they want.  However, if one is racing in the Tour Divide, the Tour Divide rules should be followed, regardless of how anyone feels about them.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #114 on: February 05, 2018, 08:58:17 AM
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« Reply #114 on: February 05, 2018, 08:58:17 AM »

"Visitation: Divide racing is not intended to be a spectator sport! However, route-town locals only may interact with (i.e. visit briefly, cheer on) thru-racers as they pass through their locale. Out-of-town visitation to the GDMBR mid-race from challengers' family or friends—even if only a  'loosely-planned', remote possibility for rider rendezvous—is prohibited"

Thank you for copying that in, I couldn't find it in my initial scan of the rules - I wasn't even sure if tourdivide.org is actually up to date.

A rule is a rule you're right...and I didn't mean to challenge one, but I know this one has been hotly debated over the years.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #115 on: February 07, 2018, 04:02:39 AM
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« Reply #115 on: February 07, 2018, 04:02:39 AM »

Who is making the money profits from the Cordillera? If it is not 100% charity, it seems odd to allow soliciting on a sign up list.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #116 on: February 07, 2018, 04:29:00 AM
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« Reply #116 on: February 07, 2018, 04:29:00 AM »

Who is making the money profits from the Cordillera? If it is not 100% charity, it seems odd to allow soliciting on a sign up list.

All profits go to the college fund of Linnea Blumenthal, daughter of Dave Blumenthal, who died in a collision with a pickup truck in Colorado during the 2010 TD.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #117 on: February 08, 2018, 07:53:08 PM
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« Reply #117 on: February 08, 2018, 07:53:08 PM »

Who is making the money profits from the Cordillera? If it is not 100% charity, it seems odd to allow soliciting on a sign up list.

Unofficial Starters List: there is an informal & unofficial starter list on Google Drive each year.

To "sign up" send a letter of intent to tourdivide@gmail.com
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #118 on: February 09, 2018, 06:46:31 AM
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« Reply #118 on: February 09, 2018, 06:46:31 AM »

Who is making the money profits from the Cordillera? If it is not 100% charity, it seems odd to allow soliciting on a sign up list.

Before questioning inform yourself well.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2018 Race Preparation Reply #119 on: February 10, 2018, 07:19:01 AM
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« Reply #119 on: February 10, 2018, 07:19:01 AM »

To "sign up" send a letter of intent to tourdivide@gmail.com

There are some pretty good ones posted on tourdivide.org from 2010 and 2011!
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