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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #780 on: June 23, 2015, 07:37:55 PM
Mathewsen


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« Reply #780 on: June 23, 2015, 07:37:55 PM »

From what I understand, the entire route this year is ~40 miles shorter than the 2012-2014 route, most of it being the Wamsutter reroute. The route cuts south far sooner and doesn't do those heinous zig-zags in the Basin anymore on the way to Rawlins.

Apparently they're building a giant wind farm on the road south of Rawlins. Last year, the construction people said they weren't going to let people through during construction hours but seemed to look the other way when the race came through. This year, they said they weren't going to let anyone through during the day, period. I guess the overall plan is to pave the road and build the farm...which I guess will lead to many years of the Wamsutter route/having it be the new 'official' route.

I don't think anyone would really mourn Rawlins no longer being a trail town...or the highway approach into it.
Wamsutter is the planned future route. One rider struck by a truck / nearly killed on MineralX Rd is enough. Wamsutter route (itself) is indeed -40mi, but tougher riding and all dirt (-75mi of Rawlins pavement). The approx riding time diffs Sobo (as measured by JayP) from where the two routes split / converge are as follows: Into Rawlins = 8hrs; into Wamsutter 5.5hrs. Out of Rawlins(to Slater)=8hrs; out of Wamsutter=6hrs. Wamsutter is also a faster / more centralized pit stop. Rawlins is a trap. Initial feedback from mid pack on Wamsutter route as reported by Kirsten at BML is, "tough, more exposed, slightly better wind cooperation, HOT" One plus is delicious solar-pumped fresh water occurring 40mi out from Wamsutter just as one begins to unravel.

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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #781 on: June 23, 2015, 07:43:00 PM
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« Reply #781 on: June 23, 2015, 07:43:00 PM »

JayP's BB isn't the only one to fail.  another cutthroat on their publicity run with the Radavist had the BB blow up as well.  I saw it on Instagram.

Personally I'd rather have a custom steel US made bike made over a Chinese made carbon frame anytime.

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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #782 on: June 23, 2015, 07:49:01 PM
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« Reply #782 on: June 23, 2015, 07:49:01 PM »

I just rec'd a text from Dylan Thomas that one of the front six escapees has fallen to a broken fork. Seb Dunne is likely out of the race, and apparently lucky to be in one piece after shearing his fork clean off while negotiating the Brazos. He will hike out tomorrow.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #783 on: June 23, 2015, 07:57:48 PM
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« Reply #783 on: June 23, 2015, 07:57:48 PM »

What kind of fork was Seb Dunne using? Steel or carbon?
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #784 on: June 23, 2015, 07:59:56 PM
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« Reply #784 on: June 23, 2015, 07:59:56 PM »

Will the official ACA route include the singletrack section in the middle?
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #785 on: June 23, 2015, 08:06:14 PM
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« Reply #785 on: June 23, 2015, 08:06:14 PM »

Possibly a Walty Titanium if he used the same rig he did earlier this year for the Kiwi Brevet.... CTRL F on Seb.
http://kiwibrevet.blogspot.co.nz/p/rider-profiles-2015_18.html

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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #786 on: June 23, 2015, 08:08:52 PM
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« Reply #786 on: June 23, 2015, 08:08:52 PM »

Possibly a Walty Titanium if he used the same rig he did earlier this year for the Kiwi Brevet.... CTRL F on Seb.
http://kiwibrevet.blogspot.co.nz/p/rider-profiles-2015_18.html




I second what El jefe says.. he knows all...
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #787 on: June 23, 2015, 08:10:27 PM
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« Reply #787 on: June 23, 2015, 08:10:27 PM »

Didn't your buddy have one Cossrider?
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #788 on: June 23, 2015, 08:13:42 PM
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« Reply #788 on: June 23, 2015, 08:13:42 PM »

Didn't your buddy have one Cossrider?

Yes his Walty frame failed badly through all tubes near the top tube but they were very quick to replace frame, he didn't use it in TD 2014.

His fork was very flexy, I would put my trust in Carbon...
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #789 on: June 23, 2015, 08:18:13 PM
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« Reply #789 on: June 23, 2015, 08:18:13 PM »

Will the official ACA route include the singletrack section in the middle?
You mean this rough stuff? My guess is ACA will stick with Rawlins for now.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #790 on: June 23, 2015, 08:38:56 PM
THE LONG RANGER

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« Reply #790 on: June 23, 2015, 08:38:56 PM »

Maybe your TD Dream Machine idea is way better, and they incorporate those design elements the next time around.

I def. wouldn't say, "better" but certainly "different". That's OK though: different bikes for different folks. But still, remember the OG Fargo? It had a funky geometry and no one understood why you wanted to bring a 29er w/disc brakes on an adventure out of civilization - where do you get spare parts? They revised the geo. (and the marketing...) and the bike is now, IMHO completely awesome, a very much copied and emulated design and always on my Xmas list. I went with the Surly Ogre, which is more of the blue collar equiv. I love that thing. (And under the same umbrella of companies, as everyone knows.) Anyways, enough blathering (from me):

HOLY SMOKES was it hot out there on the Front Range, even @ 10,000 feet. I was baking while riding home on my little leg stretching bike packing trip. I could only imagine what it's like NM right now. I would have had serious problems holding it together, if I was up front.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #791 on: June 23, 2015, 08:50:53 PM
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« Reply #791 on: June 23, 2015, 08:50:53 PM »

What kind of fork was Seb Dunne using? Steel or carbon?


Photo from Ovando (previously posted by Angler):

http://www.bikepacking.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11521.0;attach=6212;image
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #792 on: June 23, 2015, 09:08:44 PM
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« Reply #792 on: June 23, 2015, 09:08:44 PM »

Wamsutter is the planned future route. One rider struck by a truck / nearly killed on MineralX Rd is enough. Wamsutter route (itself) is indeed -40mi, but tougher riding and all dirt (-75mi of Rawlins pavement). The approx riding time diffs Sobo (as measured by JayP) from where the two routes split / converge are as follows: Into Rawlins = 8hrs; into Wamsutter 5.5hrs. Out of Rawlins(to Slater)=8hrs; out of Wamsutter=6hrs. Wamsutter is also a faster / more centralized pit stop. Rawlins is a trap. Initial feedback from mid pack on Wamsutter route as reported by Kirsten at BML is, "tough, more exposed, slightly better wind cooperation, HOT" One plus is delicious solar-pumped fresh water occurring 40mi out from Wamsutter just as one begins to unravel.



presume the new route no longer includes Aspen Alley ? Was a very scenic spot and reward for escaping the construction road last year..
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #793 on: June 23, 2015, 09:30:49 PM
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« Reply #793 on: June 23, 2015, 09:30:49 PM »

JayP and Neil are still riding close together, just outside of Abiquiu late in the night (10:30), certainly to try to beat the heat. Imagine the chatter they're sharing at this stage of the race! The next part of the route is tough when the sun gets high, and reflects down on all that sand!

I can't imagine having to go through Abiquiu without a stop at Bodes, but I bet they'll soldier on - it doesn't open for another 12 hours.

 Next resup. is Cuba, yeah? That's 54 miles away, with some tempting choices for food. Bet something opens early enough, and a "rest" on the paved road.

We are so close to Pie Town, I can almost taste it! Apple Piņon stole the show, for me!

JayP's ghost is still in Antonito. That is massive. If I remember, there were some days in NM that JayP had bad luck with the weather, turning the route unridable. That gap is surely only to open even more up!

I'm truly hoping they take this one in, to the end, together. Reminds me of Kurt and Jefe in 2011, except neither JayP or Neil have a SS disadvantage on that final paved portion. Go go go go!
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #794 on: June 23, 2015, 09:35:37 PM
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« Reply #794 on: June 23, 2015, 09:35:37 PM »

It's easy enough, as far as I can tell, for wimpy tourists to take the Wamsutter route but skip the rough stuff. Better than hassling with the road construction south of Rawlins.

-- Signed, A Wimpy Tourist

Although on second thought, I'm looking at that rocky stuff, I'm looking at 3" tires, I'm thinking, what's the problem?
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #795 on: June 23, 2015, 09:38:58 PM
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« Reply #795 on: June 23, 2015, 09:38:58 PM »

Gutted about Seb's luck   crybaby2 But it sounds like it could certainly have been worse  headbang
Now he'll just have to go full-time cheering for Bethany - woohoo!
p.s. The TdF is going to be such an anticlimax in a couple of weeks...
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #796 on: June 23, 2015, 10:20:21 PM
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« Reply #796 on: June 23, 2015, 10:20:21 PM »

Jay and Neil hotel'n it at the Abiquiu Inn? Getting in a good rest before the final few day siege? This is going to be an awesome finish...


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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #797 on: June 24, 2015, 01:24:42 AM
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« Reply #797 on: June 24, 2015, 01:24:42 AM »

What kind of fork was Seb Dunne using? Steel or carbon?

Seb's bike set up for the TD (Walty Ti 29er rigid):

https://bikingbethany.wordpress.com/2015/05/22/sebs-td-gear-list-and-bike-setup/

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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #798 on: June 24, 2015, 01:46:00 AM
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« Reply #798 on: June 24, 2015, 01:46:00 AM »

This is a pic I took of Glen Carter two years ago at Whiskey Grove campsite North of Pinedale.  I notice that he is spending the night there with Jeff Hopkins:

103_0261 by blackhound59, on Flickr
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2015 - race discussion thread Reply #799 on: June 24, 2015, 01:51:10 AM
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« Reply #799 on: June 24, 2015, 01:51:10 AM »

Tragic bad luck for Seb. He and Beth have put a major prep and training into doing this lifetime event and a gear failure is just gutting when you're riding at this level and 10,000 whatevers from home. Let's hope Beth can hang in there and come home strong.
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