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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #220 on: June 11, 2012, 07:56:04 PM
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« Reply #220 on: June 11, 2012, 07:56:04 PM »

It looks like Eszther Horanyi is pushing on for a post-midnight arrival in Lincoln. That should set her up well to maintain her 150+m/day average. Impressive!
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #221 on: June 11, 2012, 08:04:37 PM
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« Reply #221 on: June 11, 2012, 08:04:37 PM »

Just noticed she's up into 4th (depending on how everyone refreshes) with EL nursing that foot. Only 5 hrs ride behind the 2 leaders...

Any idea what Terry Brannick is looking for?
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #222 on: June 11, 2012, 08:12:28 PM
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« Reply #222 on: June 11, 2012, 08:12:28 PM »

Just noticed she's up into 4th (depending on how everyone refreshes) with EL nursing that foot. Only 5 hrs ride behind the 2 leaders...

Any idea what Terry Brannick is looking for?

Based on the maps, he could be heading to a campground or a room South of Condon. Just a guess.   
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #223 on: June 11, 2012, 08:16:42 PM
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« Reply #223 on: June 11, 2012, 08:16:42 PM »

Terry's last point is at the Hungry Bear restaurant. Prob trying to get some dinner.
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #224 on: June 11, 2012, 08:21:11 PM
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« Reply #224 on: June 11, 2012, 08:21:11 PM »

Based on the maps, he could be heading to a campground or a room South of Condon. Just a guess.    
I appears to be a straight, paved road, so it might be a wise move (warm night's sleep with a few off-route miles as a time penalty). To continue on would mean a late night arrival at Seeley.
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #225 on: June 11, 2012, 08:23:02 PM
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« Reply #225 on: June 11, 2012, 08:23:02 PM »

Terry's last point is at the Hungry Bear restaurant. Prob trying to get some dinner.
I'm sure warm food in a warm, dry restaurant is feeling pretty good.    thumbsup
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #226 on: June 11, 2012, 09:23:48 PM
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« Reply #226 on: June 11, 2012, 09:23:48 PM »

Union was pretty dry for us in 2009, just a short section of snow walking but I got hammered by rain (with Kurt) into Pinedale where he had previous broke his derailleur.

However on the backside of Tog there was much snow, mud and pushing. Very cold after midnight.

Yep Chris. You guys missed the Union mud in 2009 I guess. Some chasing you weren't so lucky though. I saw a group of 5 riders at the Mexican restaurant right at dark. (Blaine, Cannon...) They rode into town in a thunderstorm, gully washer and decided to find shelter for the evening. Saw Lobeck the next day, haggered at the Subway. He got caught on Union in the rain and was covered in mud. (I was living in Pinedale then.) The tog backside (to Books Lake Lodge) was a mess for us 2010'ers too. I imagine it will be this the same this year. 
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #227 on: June 11, 2012, 09:32:26 PM
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« Reply #227 on: June 11, 2012, 09:32:26 PM »

The tog backside (to Books Lake Lodge) was a mess for us 2010'ers too.
Sucker-punch to the gonads is how I remember it best.  All that "easy" spinning from Flagg Ranch along Jackson Lake via pave, then a little dirt, then a long pave climb to Tog Pass, only to be crest the top and walk 3 to 4 miles in snow and mud.  That took some mental hardness, or helped develop it, i'm not sure which anymore.  Just glad a got through before it got too dark.  But I digress ...

The race is still solidly in Montana, and there's that famous TD adage ... 'make it through Montana, make it to AW' ... and the section from Lincoln to Wise River has plenty of challenges to offer the front-runners.

... this is a great running of the event so far... plenty of hard, earnest efforts by all riders.
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #228 on: June 11, 2012, 09:40:43 PM
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« Reply #228 on: June 11, 2012, 09:40:43 PM »

Oli and Craig into Helena for some food and lodgings at 10pm.
Maybe an "earlyish" night, before an early morning start to a "short" 110km ride to Butte to say hi to Rob at The Outdoorsman??
Keep pushing Oli, you are rocking it!!!
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #229 on: June 11, 2012, 09:43:08 PM
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« Reply #229 on: June 11, 2012, 09:43:08 PM »

If so I think it would be very hard for any of them to reach Helena tonight.

10:36pm race time: OW and CS are on the doorstep of Helena!  Nice pull!  That makes a clean break from the pack, since the "chasers" are still miles out from Lincoln.  I don't have the mileage between the 2 towns handy at the moment, but it's somewhere in the range of 5 to 7 hours of riding in the rain/mud, in daylight.  Assuming no slow-downs by the front runners, someone's gonna have to pull an all-nighter or two, doesn't have to be now but sometime in the next 10days, to catch these rabbits.
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #230 on: June 11, 2012, 09:49:09 PM
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« Reply #230 on: June 11, 2012, 09:49:09 PM »

Oli and Craig into Helena for some food and lodgings at 10pm.
Maybe an "earlyish" night, before an early morning start to a "short" 110km ride to Butte to say hi to Rob at The Outdoorsman??
Keep pushing Oli, you are rocking it!!!

Lava Mtn (infamous for some) between Helena and Basin is a tall, gnarly, steep one, and could be cold and wet, depending on weather and river/stream run-off conditions.  Plenty of spots where the trail is right next to volumes of flowing water between Helena and Butte.

The true TD stunt to pull at this point for them is NOT to grab lodgings in Helena.  Food, dinner, yes, but hotel?  They spent the night out last night, so why not head up the road out of town and do the same tonight?
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #231 on: June 11, 2012, 09:53:46 PM
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« Reply #231 on: June 11, 2012, 09:53:46 PM »

Did this year's race start at 10 a.m. Friday? I'm just curious.
It's exciting.

I saw a post early on this thread or the pre-race one that indicated 8am start for this year.
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #232 on: June 11, 2012, 10:03:21 PM
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« Reply #232 on: June 11, 2012, 10:03:21 PM »

Couple of other race developments I'm noticing this evening...

Jarral Ryter continues to surge up the pack ... and continues to make up some serious ground in the past 2 days after being slowed by some mechanical issue.  Probably misses his local riding friends EH and JS.  Impressive.

Also, looks like a position change for the women in the 2nd and 3rd spots, with KW continuing on past Seeley Lake in the night as TP has gone into town.
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #233 on: June 12, 2012, 05:05:16 AM
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« Reply #233 on: June 12, 2012, 05:05:16 AM »

Thanks for posting that, ridingman1.

As President of the South Carolina Chapter of the CrazyLarry Fan Club (CLFC.SC), it's the least I can do.
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #234 on: June 12, 2012, 05:07:31 AM
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« Reply #234 on: June 12, 2012, 05:07:31 AM »

Calls overnight from Tracey P, Eric Foster, Phillip Fogg, Ollie Whalley, and Josh Smith!
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #235 on: June 12, 2012, 05:41:27 AM
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« Reply #235 on: June 12, 2012, 05:41:27 AM »

Sucker-punch to the gonads is how I remember it best.  All that "easy" spinning from Flagg Ranch along Jackson Lake via pave, then a little dirt, then a long pave climb to Tog Pass, only to be crest the top and walk 3 to 4 miles in snow and mud.  That took some mental hardness, or helped develop it, i'm not sure which anymore.  Just glad a got through before it got too dark. 
In 2010 I found Togwotee Pass at night to be the spookiest section of the route. I have never seen so many eyeballs reflected back at me. Hundreds and hundreds of little glowing eyes.  I figured the bears in this area were well fed as it was difficult to walk through without accidentally stepping on a jackalope... really I could almost reach out and grab them!   It was the last long snow push in 2010 and a real a**kicker.
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #236 on: June 12, 2012, 06:15:04 AM
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« Reply #236 on: June 12, 2012, 06:15:04 AM »

An early start for Craig, Ollie still asleep in Helena? Some lumpy terrain ahead, what are the trail surfaces like in this next section? Isn't the dreaded clay only a day or two ahead?
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #237 on: June 12, 2012, 06:18:12 AM
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« Reply #237 on: June 12, 2012, 06:18:12 AM »

An early start for Craig, Ollie still asleep in Helena? Some lumpy terrain ahead, what are the trail surfaces like in this next section? Isn't the dreaded clay only a day or two ahead?

Doubt it. His SPOT has been spotty so far so could be that or that he hasn't turned it back on yet.  Maybe those two are messing with us Wink
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #238 on: June 12, 2012, 06:22:55 AM
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« Reply #238 on: June 12, 2012, 06:22:55 AM »

Just saw them both out on the road a few miles out of Helena ... not sure which one is which, but whoever was leading was all smiles and waves!
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  Topic Name: TD'12 Race Discussion Reply #239 on: June 12, 2012, 06:51:07 AM
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« Reply #239 on: June 12, 2012, 06:51:07 AM »

Calls overnight from Tracey P, Eric Foster, Phillip Fogg, Ollie Whalley, and Josh Smith!


hey Joe - definitly not Tracey P's call in, maybe Tracy B...

Hey Big Blue get back on the right road...
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