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  Topic Name: Coco 250 on: September 21, 2014, 08:59:06 AM
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« on: September 21, 2014, 08:59:06 AM »

Just wondering how many people are thinking about doing the AES Coco 250 next month? Figured I would start the thread since it is coming up.

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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #1 on: September 22, 2014, 12:03:29 PM
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2014, 12:03:29 PM »


Coconino!

A few have expressed interest on the AES page:

http://rockyroad5050.wordpress.com/5-coconino-250-and-350

But so far it seems like it'll be a fairly small event.  A bit of a shame since it is such an incredibly fun loop (in my very biased opinion).  It's been a few years since I've been able to participate, so I'm hoping to come ride.  Not sure how CDT recovery (both physical and mental) will go, or if I'll be in the mood, but it sounds appealing to me right now.

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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #2 on: September 22, 2014, 12:14:57 PM
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2014, 12:14:57 PM »

My wife and I are looking forward to FINALLY doing this loop. Just hope the weather holds out.

Anxious to see if Mingus is "all that".

--Jeff
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #3 on: September 22, 2014, 01:25:31 PM
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2014, 01:25:31 PM »

I am in for Coconino. Can't wait. New to bikepacking. I'll be the guy with to much gear and no clue how to use it. Will be a lot of fun. If you do see me out there doing something stupid don't be afraid to tell me. Good news is I rode some miles on AZT this weekend. And only got lost twice. I know it sounds bad but it's actually an improvement. See everyone out there.
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #4 on: September 22, 2014, 05:42:22 PM
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2014, 05:42:22 PM »

My wife and I are looking forward to FINALLY doing this loop. Just hope the weather holds out.

Anxious to see if Mingus is "all that".

--Jeff

Oh, it's all that and more.  You'll love your SS for the all the HAB -- it'll be so light to push!

As for the stupid steep and endless dirt road that is rideable in granny ring.... sucks to be you!

It hadn't occurred to me that you guys haven't ridden Coco yet.  It's a classic.  I think you'll love it, while also making sure that both Chad and I don't need ear warmers, no matter how cold it gets.  Wink
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #5 on: September 23, 2014, 06:45:56 AM
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2014, 06:45:56 AM »

Oh, it's all that and more.  You'll love your SS for the all the HAB -- it'll be so light to push!

As for the stupid steep and endless dirt road that is rideable in granny ring.... sucks to be you!

It hadn't occurred to me that you guys haven't ridden Coco yet.  It's a classic.  I think you'll love it, while also making sure that both Chad and I don't need ear warmers, no matter how cold it gets.  Wink

Heh, looking forward to invoking your name on the push up Mingus. Another classic HAB that I need to add to the quiver.

Hope you can make it. And bring that girl along. I know you guys have some stories...
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #6 on: September 23, 2014, 08:48:27 AM
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2014, 08:48:27 AM »

Is GPS a must on this route?  I never use it, but it seems like this could be a challenging route to run off cue sheets.  Any advice?

I'm trying to figure out what stuff I would need to pull together a last minute trip.

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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #7 on: September 23, 2014, 08:54:01 AM
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2014, 08:54:01 AM »

Heh, looking forward to invoking your name on the push up Mingus. Another classic HAB that I need to add to the quiver.

Hope you can make it. And bring that girl along. I know you guys have some stories...


Yep, hopefully both the girl and I will be there.  Hard to imagine much better than watching the sunset up here:

http://www.topofusion.com/images/diary/cocomingo11_resize.jpg

With friends, ~warm temps and maybe a beer (if you're into that) from Munds, if anyone goes for the unofficial time bonus.
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #8 on: September 23, 2014, 08:55:39 AM
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2014, 08:55:39 AM »

Is GPS a must on this route?  I never use it, but it seems like this could be a challenging route to run off cue sheets.  Any advice?

I'm trying to figure out what stuff I would need to pull together a last minute trip.

I'd highly recommend one.  A few people have done it on cues alone, but it's not easy.  A lot of it is straightforward, but you'll be glad you have a track to look at for the confusing/unsigned parts.
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #9 on: September 23, 2014, 09:09:45 AM
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2014, 09:09:45 AM »

cool, thanks!
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #10 on: September 23, 2014, 09:16:40 AM
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2014, 09:16:40 AM »

I'll be there, looking for - ok, hoping for - a little redemption on both Mingus & Bill Williams Mtns. I'd prefer to get up those hills in daylight....I do have 2 more teeth on my granny this go-round!!
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #11 on: September 23, 2014, 12:58:10 PM
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2014, 12:58:10 PM »

cool, thanks!

Also, to successfully do the stage race timing, you need the waypoints so you know where the timing starts/ends.
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #12 on: September 23, 2014, 12:58:38 PM
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2014, 12:58:38 PM »

I'll be there, looking for - ok, hoping for - a little redemption on both Mingus & Bill Williams Mtns. I'd prefer to get up those hills in daylight....I do have 2 more teeth on my granny this go-round!!

Right on.
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #13 on: September 23, 2014, 01:31:59 PM
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2014, 01:31:59 PM »

and maybe a beer (if you're into that) from Munds, if anyone goes for the unofficial time bonus.

Did you just challenge me to see if I can cram a six pack from Munds into my pack? This would require that Ray shotguns at least one of them.
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #14 on: September 23, 2014, 02:45:31 PM
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2014, 02:45:31 PM »

Did you just challenge me to see if I can cram a six pack from Munds into my pack? This would require that Ray shotguns at least one of them.

Usually someone mans up and makes the beer run.  There's always talk of an hour time bonus to offset the time spent off route...

I hope Ray's back for another go!
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #15 on: September 23, 2014, 05:45:08 PM
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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2014, 05:45:08 PM »

I'm in for another!  Great loop and such a fun time.  No ITT for me this year...wanna enjoy the "off the clock time".  Not many of these silly things where we can race and socialize for 3-4 days straight.  Too bad beer sherpa Mark Allen isn't riding this year...that dude schlepped a 12pack of coors from Munds in 2012...
I was planning on stashing a cooler of beer, cigarettes and pot brownies at camp #1, any issue with that?  lol...
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #16 on: September 24, 2014, 12:56:32 PM
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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2014, 12:56:32 PM »

Having toured most of this route already, I can say this a great loop.  It is almost entirely real mountain biking and very little pavement.  I would very much like to come out for this year (not sure if I really need to do Mingus again though).  Its going to be a last minute decision for me though due to my work and wife.  I'm 50/50 at this point.  Stashing intoxicants at the first night campground site sounds like a great idea!  
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #17 on: September 24, 2014, 02:49:35 PM
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2014, 02:49:35 PM »

I'm in.  Just got the days off finalized. This will be almost all new terrain for me, really looking forward to it.  And one of the creators himself might show up!
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #18 on: September 24, 2014, 03:52:09 PM
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2014, 03:52:09 PM »

Here goes the new guy again... What is everyone taking for gear? Tent, jetboil, dehydrated food? I bought all this stuff and now  not sure if I need half of it. Not to mention it's heavy. I have been riding with 2.5L of water in frane bag and up to 3L in my osprey. Does that sound like to much for this ride? Any advice will help. Can't wait.
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  Topic Name: Coco 250 Reply #19 on: September 24, 2014, 05:26:09 PM
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2014, 05:26:09 PM »

Wyattt...minimize weight...pushing a 50+ lb bike up Mingus and Bill Williams blows bad.  Personally, I ditch the stove...plenty of resupply on this route and you can do without that stuff.  Lots of water too although you'll want to fill up in Cottonwood and at the Verde.
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