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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #500 on: June 21, 2010, 08:40:14 AM
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« Reply #500 on: June 21, 2010, 08:40:14 AM »

Couldn't wait to post these. Muchas gracias to Todd Ison for his photos from Island Park!

Here's Jon Billman on his Siren 29er SS ...







Note: As of this morning, Jon had crossed into Wyoming and according to Todd's report, was feeling pretty upbeat and was in good spirits.

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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #501 on: June 21, 2010, 09:49:13 AM
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« Reply #501 on: June 21, 2010, 09:49:13 AM »

think its awesome that we got such a good little shakedown going on upfront.  Blaine's holding his place, Matt Lee is charging and Erik is chasing, awesome!!!
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #502 on: June 21, 2010, 10:12:42 AM
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« Reply #502 on: June 21, 2010, 10:12:42 AM »

Looks like Preston is heading back north in auto..Hopefully we will get an update on what was broke...Go Dave
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #503 on: June 21, 2010, 10:39:35 AM
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« Reply #503 on: June 21, 2010, 10:39:35 AM »

Keep pushin' Dave T and Dave B!  Rookies who?  Have fun and be safe.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #504 on: June 21, 2010, 03:16:51 PM
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« Reply #504 on: June 21, 2010, 03:16:51 PM »

Read Kent's blog about his recent endo over a barbed wire cattle crossing ... Seems the mountain turtle went airborne and landed on his shell -- glad to report he and bike are fine. Just another day on the Great Divide ...
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #505 on: June 21, 2010, 03:28:32 PM
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« Reply #505 on: June 21, 2010, 03:28:32 PM »

   How did he manage to flip back over?

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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #506 on: June 21, 2010, 03:44:48 PM
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« Reply #506 on: June 21, 2010, 03:44:48 PM »

How did he manage to flip back over?
Uh oh, maybe he's received outside assistance? Smiley
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #507 on: June 21, 2010, 03:45:41 PM
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« Reply #507 on: June 21, 2010, 03:45:41 PM »

Deanna Adams had a similar incident on her cross fixie last year as well. Important note to remember! It would really be quite the surprise at night.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #508 on: June 21, 2010, 05:56:28 PM
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« Reply #508 on: June 21, 2010, 05:56:28 PM »

Read Kent's blog about his recent endo over a barbed wire cattle crossing ... Seems the mountain turtle went airborne and landed on his shell -- glad to report he and bike are fine. Just another day on the Great Divide ...
I wondered if he'd gone off course - has any other rider mentioned this thing this year?
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #509 on: June 21, 2010, 11:07:23 PM
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« Reply #509 on: June 21, 2010, 11:07:23 PM »

I was looking at the pictures on the tourdivide.org site. Especially this one:



Is that an Alfine IGH? Sure looks like one. That would be the best test of it's reliability.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #510 on: June 21, 2010, 11:36:22 PM
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« Reply #510 on: June 21, 2010, 11:36:22 PM »

Is that an Alfine IGH? Sure looks like one. That would be the best test of it's reliability.

Looks very much like it might be, well spotted!
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #511 on: June 22, 2010, 01:48:53 AM
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« Reply #511 on: June 22, 2010, 01:48:53 AM »

Yes it is. Interestingly, he's running the shift cable along the top tube and down the seatstay to the cassette joint (little doodad where shift cable connects to hub for shifting) tucked behind the chainstay. He must have the cassette joint slightly angled up to have it behind the chainstay (as opposed to slightly angled down where it could snag something and break).

It's an interesting choice and as you said earlier, this will be a good test of reliability. Alfine and nexus hubs have been used on mountain bikes in various configurations (even though they are officially not designed for it but seem to be very capable of handling the job).

If the gear range proves to be adequate, this hub would seem like a good choice if it is durable enough. Aside from a catastrophic failure which would likely end someone's tour or would be as complicated to replace as a blown drivetrain/hub/etc., there are few places where the hub can break. The cog and cassette joint could break but both items are easy to carry and weigh very little (easier than carrying a rear derailleur and cassette). The advantage of not having a moving chain and derailleur and the cleaning ease in muddy conditions would seem like good compromises for some limits in the gear range.

Now, with the 11 speed, oil bath Alfine on the way, this could open up some real possibilities.

P.S. the usual argument of hub inefficiency is, IMHO a bit of a red herring in this setting because who actually has a clean and  optimally efficient drivetrain when off-road touring for multiple days?
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #512 on: June 22, 2010, 04:50:36 AM
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« Reply #512 on: June 22, 2010, 04:50:36 AM »

So Erik lives in Steamboat Springs, elev 6700'; will he have an advantage over Blaine and Matthew in the high country of CO? Now that he's caught up Blaine, and within 60 miles of Matthew, this is getting interesting again!
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #513 on: June 22, 2010, 06:17:30 AM
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« Reply #513 on: June 22, 2010, 06:17:30 AM »

Ya, was watching that, seems like yesterday they were all at various states of about 30 miles apart was surpsrised to see Erik pulling ahead of Blaine.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #514 on: June 22, 2010, 06:27:59 AM
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« Reply #514 on: June 22, 2010, 06:27:59 AM »

About hub efficiency... Not to get off topic, but not long ago I rode hard for a few days on a new 3-speed ti Brompton folder (or maybe it was a 2x3). The losses in any gear but the direct-drive were depressing -- when going hard on pavement. I didn't notice it when just cruising. I suppose it was Sturmey-Archer? I'd been hoping to be impressed by hot new efficiency. It was dandy, just not for high-performance. The old ones were good for easy stuff. This new one seemed good for medium.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #515 on: June 22, 2010, 06:35:46 AM
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« Reply #515 on: June 22, 2010, 06:35:46 AM »

Who is that riding the bike with the Alfine hub?  
I believe I read that Dave Blumenthal is on a Rohloff, true?  Anybody else this year on an internal geared hub? (sorry if this has been covered already)

Derek Richert, Dave Preston, and Brad Perry all lost time this week going into Jackson, probably to deal with mechanical problems.  It would be interesting to know what they were fixing.

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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #516 on: June 22, 2010, 06:43:50 AM
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« Reply #516 on: June 22, 2010, 06:43:50 AM »

Who is that riding the bike with the Alfine hub? 
I believe I read that Dave Blumenthal is on a Rohloff, true?  Anybody else this year on an internal geared hub? (sorry if this has been covered already)

Derek Richert, Dave Preston, and Brad Perry all lost time this week going into Jackson, probably to deal with mechanical problems.  It would be interesting to know what they were fixing.

AmyL, Palo Alto

Stephen Huddle is riding an IGH.



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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #517 on: June 22, 2010, 06:59:27 AM
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I believe I read that Dave Blumenthal is on a Rohloff, true?  Anybody else this year on an internal geared hub? (sorry if this has been covered already)


Dave B is running a conventional drivetrain. He considered it, think he posted about it here somewhere.

His rig, from his blog:
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #518 on: June 22, 2010, 07:36:09 AM
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« Reply #518 on: June 22, 2010, 07:36:09 AM »

Ya, was watching that, seems like yesterday they were all at various states of about 30 miles apart was surpsrised to see Erik pulling ahead of Blaine.
I think what we see in the split chart for Erik and Blaine at Steamboat is due to the location of the split point.  Blaine's spot was in the Steamboat vicinity and parked for a couple of hours while Erik was still inbound last night.  This morning, if current spot locations are to believed, the spread between the two is about what it has been with Blaine again in front.  Erik might also be holding back to get his bike into the shop to forestall the dreaded unicycle "fix" - when so many parts have fallen off or been destroyed along the route that only one wheel is left viable.
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  Topic Name: Tour Divide 2010 Reply #519 on: June 22, 2010, 07:50:51 AM
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« Reply #519 on: June 22, 2010, 07:50:51 AM »

So Erik lives in Steamboat Springs, elev 6700'; will he have an advantage over Blaine and Matthew in the high country of CO? Now that he's caught up Blaine, and within 60 miles of Matthew, this is getting interesting again!

I'm curious, to what degree do those who have ridden the TD coming from lower elevations notice the air? I just moved away from Boulder after 4 years and when there, I found I only really started to feel the elevation at 9K'+. A local brevet organizer advertised a ride that started outside of Boulder (~5400') and headed into Kansas as lowlander-friendly. Now that I'm hooked on the TD and have to start planning for it, I'm wondering whether I need to plan in several weeks at altitude first!
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