Thanks

Wow, 1st place crushed it

I saw that, but I don't see results.  Maybe they are there and I'm just not finding them.

Anyway, I guess the Eddie guy won. Seeet.  Curious about 2nd and 3rd.

Hey
So how did this thing shake out?
I don't see results, just some 5 hr old spot dots on the map.

Has anyone seen or heard anything from Fred Wilkinson on the trail?  He doesn't have a spot and I'm just trying to figure out when he might be coming in.
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Fred pulled out at Kelvin

Yeah, Eszter is a badass.


Has anyone seen or heard anything from Fred Wilkinson on the trail?  He doesn't have a spot and I'm just trying to figure out when he might be coming in.

Fun stuff. Looking forward to next year.
Thanks for the ride, food and spot help Scott.

Oh, I guess the non-motorist coverage would probably only apply if you get hit by a car, but something good to know about.

Not as good as I remember it, but still totally worth it.  Even an ambulance ride can hit 20k pretty quick. Layer up with a travel insurance thing for an event and you're probably doing the best a person reasonably can.  If something did happen, chances are they will try to deny you coverage on some grounds, but you’ll only be out $12 a month and maybe have a fighting chance to sue.

Also, if you have car insurance you may have some coverage as a non motorist.  That saved my butt when I had a 45k bill after getting hit by a truck on the divide a few years ago.  About 12 months of a lawyer going back and forth with the hospital we were able to get all the medical bills knocked down to a level that I could cover them with my non motorist coverage and my little bit of savings.

Does anyone know of coverage for accident and or extraction coverage while bikepack racing? I looked into travel insurance but don't know if it would cover bikepack racing or not. I know spot offers extraction coverage for $12.95 per year but I don't think it would cover any medical.

Thanks in advance!

I use the SPOT GEOS Evac insurance.  Been a while since I’ve looked at it and it may have changed, but I thought it covered up to 100 k evac and up to 10 k medical.

Negatives?   Lots of flat or fast sections and a really sore butt.  Props to Jefe and others for pulling it off and with style, but I  like ss  for most of my riding because it’s fun, and the Divide on a ss does not sound fun. 

Ah.  Yeah just noticed that.  bummer

Wonder if Rick will reel Jay in.  Only a few miles back.
For those that don't know, Rick is an old school, under the radar endurance bad ass.

I am planning my Tour Divide ride and thinking about how to approach the risks associated with road side camping in a bivy sack.

My thinking is that in risk from bears and and lions while actually riding is lower because hopefully the wild life is not likely to prey on a moving vehicle with lights and unnatural sounds.  On the other hand I am a little concerned about the idea of sleeping in my bivy or out in the open.  In the bivy sack it seems there may be more risk from a bear or lion.  They may thing that a bag that smells a little like discarded human food might be worth investigation.  Snakes might also simply think it is a nice warm place to hang out.

How much risk of bivy attack exists?  Is this like winning the lottery or do I actually need to make plans and take steps to prevent attack.  If plans are needed what is a typical approach for TDR riders?

You should really carry an electric fence to be safe.  Little extra weight, but totally worth it.


http://www.udap.com/bearshock.htm

Thanks for the links.
Now I'd like to know why the panicking over snow hasn't started here yet.

 A while back, maybe last year, somebody had a link to snow levels along the route.  I can't find it searching through threads.  Anybody care to re-post that.

Thanks
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Hey Kurt.  Nice ride dude.

I'm glad you confirmed my feeling that the current route is a little slower than in the past.  I felt like that last push fron the construction to the end was way longer than the old mining road.  Anyway, good times.  I had a blast riding with Steve W and it was nice meeting Phil, Carol and Tanner at Summerhaven

So what the hell is up with Scott waiting for a better weather window?  Everybody please give him shit for that.

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Anybody from Oregon headed down there?  Leaving from Bend. I can fit 1 more person and bike.  Hoping to leave a car in Superior and then catch a ride to the start somehow.

Pete

Must've been the kind of mud that makes a rider go faster, not slower, 'cuz JP's "splits" from Abiquiu -> Cuba -> Pie Town were pretty darn fast.

Yeah, there was a block of about 8 hours where the Trackleaders site wasn't updating, so we were just speculating, but apparently he moving pretty good.

I'm guessing he's dealing with mud right now.  Judging by the last call in and the spot dot.
Bummer.

I rode Gold Dust a few weeks ago and it's an OK trail.  Couple fun sections.  I couldn't help wondering though, why it was added?  It is a little rough for a loaded bike and pretty inconsistent with the rest of the route.  There are so many places in CO where more mtn bike like trails could be substituted for the GD route, so why not them? 

Just through Frisco and Breck alone you could ride almost all dirt.  I don't think that's what the Divide route is though, so I'm kinda wondering what the story is behind the addition of Gold Dust?

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He is several hours ahead of ML's time from 09, but right on track to John Nobile's record border to border time from 08.

Jay and I have talked about this so I know he has both records in his crosshairs.  

MLs 09 time from Canada is ~17 d 23 h  (is this right?  I always thought it was faster)
JNs 08 GDR record is 15 d 1 h

Tacking on Canada in race mode for these guys adds about 29 h.
So the target, is about 16 d 6 hr.  That is, John Nobile's time plus the added Canada section.  Obviously just an estimate.

As far as I can tell, he is on track to hit that if he maintains his average of 165-67 per day.  When John set his record he ramped up his milage considerably towards Antelope Wells, but I think the overall average still worked out to 165 or so.


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