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1  Forums / Routes / Re: TransMichigan on: July 27, 2014, 04:57:06 PM
There's very little sand, I run a Rampage 29r 2.35 on the front and Saguaro 2.2 on the rear.  I've run Python 2.0 tires on the NCT before as well, without issues.

I'd say the fat bike would be fun, but kinda overkill if they're worried about sand.  Although there certainly are some small stretches where it would definitely be an advantage.
2  Forums / Routes / Re: TransMichigan on: July 27, 2014, 06:19:43 AM
When you right click and save as, you can always change the file extension to gpx.  Or after you download to your local computer.  From the link below, I just did the download to my computer and uploaded to my Etrex 30 w/o issues.  I'm on the Mac, so the path to the unit mount is this: /Volumes/GARMIN/Garmin/GPX , however if you're on Windows it will be something along the lines of <drive_letter>:\GARMIN\Garmin\GPX  Once downloaded you might want to change the names of the track(s) to something simple when you upload, or it will just have the name 'Track' in the selection window.  For instance, I changed the big loop to TMLOOP.gpx and that's the name it shows in the selection window on my Etrex.

I just put up a new post consolidating the tracks (so you don't have to scroll through the old posts).  These tracks also include all the relevant p2p waypoints into each file.  Here's the link:

I'm going to try and post some overview maps of the routes at some point in the next few days.

Post up if you have any more issues.

3  Forums / Routes / Re: TransMichigan on: July 11, 2014, 12:46:18 PM
Hey big_papa_nuts,

You'll want to download the gpx tracks to your computer (right click on track link -> save as) and open them in TopoFusion (download the free version at  The p2p route from White Cloud to Mackinaw City has been verified (post:  If you're looking to do the loop, the portion (~80 roadie ride) from Gaylord to Cadillac is not verified.  I was hoping to do the verification over the 4th of July weekend, but got distracted and rode to Higgins Lake via Grayling instead.

Does this help?  If you need more help/info, post up and I'll help the best I can.

4  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: AML 400 | Allegheny Mtns. Loop on: July 10, 2014, 10:59:32 AM
Yep, the Kent Square Parking Garage.

5  Forums / Routes / Re: TransMichigan on: April 22, 2014, 06:19:19 PM
New 'loop' route up on the TM site:

6  Forums / Routes / TransMichigan on: March 17, 2014, 03:15:07 PM
Preliminary data is now up for the 2014 TransMichigan route.  The numbers clock in at ~323 miles and 26,400' of ascent.  Foregoing accuracy, I'd say this route is ~ 65% singletrack and fairly flat, but there's definitely some hike-a-bike.

You can check out all the particulars here:

There's also interest in an organized event, which you can view here: and here:

7  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop dreaming on: February 23, 2014, 06:35:15 PM
Indeed, my Grand Loop thoughts are inescapable...  an incurable poison.

Definitely want to give it another go, but have been putting it off to see what happens with the Paradox changes and getting distracted by other routes/projects closer to home.

It would be nice to see renewed interest in the GLR, maybe this will be the year?  Like krefs said (and wookieone can attest to), there's some amazingly beautiful and remote country out there just begging to be explored.

Fifteen or so weeks to think about it...
8  Forums / Routes / Re: Michigan Upper Peninsula on: October 09, 2013, 02:01:31 PM
Hey jehsohn,

How did your trip go?  Did you happen to get a gps track from the route?

9  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Allegheny Mountains Loop 400 2013 Discussion on: October 08, 2013, 12:53:49 PM
Wow, what an awesome time, route and group of competitors!  Definitely a must do east coast classic.  headbang

Here's my writeup and pics from the event:

10  Forums / Routes / Re: Michigan Upper Peninsula on: August 29, 2013, 01:50:21 PM
Great writeup Chad!  Now to add this to the TM route and ride from the Ohio border -> Copper Harbor!
11  Forums / Routes / Re: Michigan Upper Peninsula on: July 25, 2013, 12:44:58 PM
Little bump to poke at Chad for getting his trip report done.   headbang
12  Forums / Bikepacking / Re: NCT in the LP of Michigan on: January 16, 2013, 12:18:01 PM
Hey Dallas,

Not that I'm aware of.  I rode the entire route (S->N) over two full moon fever weekends in the fall and only skipped two sections, taking the roads instead.

They were:

- ~10 miles of Wilderness State Park, from Sturgeon Bay (Lakeview Road) to just outside Mackinaw City where I picked up the rail trail into town.  Excuse: Sand.

- The small section from M-115 <-> M-37 where the trail skirts around the town of Mesick. Excuse: Excessive bushwhacking.

I will probably start riding the trail again sometime in March or April if the snow clears out, so if I hear or see anything new, I'll post up.  I do see that they have updated several of the maps since I purchased mine.  Here's the link:

Your route sounds like a good one!  Have a great time!


Here's the post at the Kipp Road trailhead.

13  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop ridden like a girl on: June 08, 2012, 06:08:26 AM
Excellent job ladies!   thumbsup
14  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop 2009 on: May 30, 2012, 10:38:04 AM
Hmm...  I have my drive train fixed up and was thinking of making another run at it.  If the fire isn't contained until Sunday, I can see how starting on 141 might be the best strategy and hopefully get through at the very end.  I'll see how today goes and determine my intents.

I didn't take many pics this time until I started to get to the new stuff, of which I didn't see much.

No sign of fire at the border.

Bedrock overlook.

Turn before descent into Red Canyon.

Red Canyon Rubble.

15  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop 2009 on: May 29, 2012, 08:59:57 PM
Hi All,

Wow, that wind was seriously crazy.  I had a headwind for most of the time on the course, excepting (luckily) when cruising right through the fire on Carpenter Ridge.  That scared the crap out of me.  The fight or flight hit like a ton of bricks from the claustrophobic choke of the smoke and the super hot flames from the burning trees and 'mulch'.  It appeared they were doing some clearing in the area?  I'll pass on another experience like that...

As far as my ride, the wind and dryness (read: sand and blowing sand) on course caused my drive train to turn into rubble...  As I was going up the climb to the Koski traverse and lost the ability to shift in the granny gear without chain suck , I turned around and got a ride from a rancher from ~Uravan -> Whitewater, where I gingerly pedaled back to my car at the Tab TH.

Good Luck to Lynda and Cat!  Hopefully the fire is sorted out by the time they get back to Bedrock!
16  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop 2009 on: May 21, 2012, 05:14:25 PM
I'm planning to start on Wednesday after the winds calm down a bit.  Probably earlier in the day?  My friend doesn't have internet here in Denver so I'll probably only check in once more before rolling out to GJ.  Hopefully the weather/temps hold out too.  Let the fun begin...

BryanK: Nice job and thanks for the recon info.

prkoski: Maybe I'll run into you this time if i make it to Nucla.

Here's my spot page:

Maybe Scott will resurrect the GL tracker?

17  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop 2009 on: May 07, 2012, 09:11:34 AM
Ahh...  Demystification!  This loop does need some additional tire tracks, for sure.  Reading those maps and making my original track did take some time and that's part of the appeal of it, IMO.  But track or not- the heat and hikin' is sure to make you wonder 'why to heck am I doing this'?

Here ya go Mark:  You'll notice a bit of wonky-ness at the end of the Rooby walking through the woods, my err going up Long Creek and going to Naturita.  I also took 340 from GJ -> Fruita instead of the roads hugging the Monument from the TH.

I'll make sure I take a few pics out there on the Koski, Kurt.

18  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop 2009 on: May 03, 2012, 12:45:39 PM
Yep, I sure am mr cowboy.

My intent is to do the full Paradox Trail, adhering to the current reroute that skips Spradlin Park (pp issue) and takes the road into/out of Nucla.  Probably start in Grand Junction this time as well.
19  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop 2009 on: May 03, 2012, 10:52:37 AM
Wow, that's crazy.  Unfortunately, my window of opportunity for driving out doesn't open until May 18th at this point, which would probably mean a Monday the 21st-ish start.  My guess is that what little water there is on the Koko is gonna be in even shorter supply by then at this rate, besides pumping out of the muddy river.  It would be nice to have some cool temps in the desert though.

Anyone else thinkin' about it?

20  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop 2009 on: April 22, 2012, 10:28:39 AM
With snowpacks this year, on the other hand...

Yes, this is my thought as well...  I'd prolly still stick with starting ~Friday June 1 and going down Red Canyon and up and across the Koski Traverse, but hopefully not have to walk the Pool Creek section.   We'll see.  ~6 weeks to think about it.   BangHead

Gonna give it another go Kurt?
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