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1  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop 2009 on: March 02, 2016, 12:17:11 PM
But now I see the GPX has been posted on since 2012, so...nevermind, I guess.

I'd say even with the track, you'll still be bushwhacking a bit.  And there's still the conundrum of available water sources...
2  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop 2009 on: March 02, 2016, 07:32:21 AM
The Google Earth overlays from this site are informative as well:
3  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop 2009 on: February 09, 2016, 01:46:56 PM
Hi All,

I'm a potential, however I've been waiting for the Paradox re-route to happen...  And as always, if it's more advantageous (weather wise) to slide the start date and go ITT, that would be my intent.  With a Tab TH start off Monument Rd, Koski Traverse, Paradox re-route.

Hey Paul, what's the chance that some spring Grand Loopers might be able put down some tracks on the new route?

4  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop dreaming on: May 22, 2015, 07:02:57 AM
Still looking a bit moist up on the plateau at this point, does anyone have this on their radar?  If I give it another go my target start date is June 5th, but as always I'll move that around a bit due to weather and/or course conditions.  Hopefully things dry out a bit over the next two weeks...

The latest update from the FS (5/20) still says Divide Road is closed.  Cite: (click Spring Road Conditions under Quick Links on the right hand side of the page and then find the Uncompahgre reports in the list.)

Depending on your disposition, NOAA has a fairly good link for their snow analysis:
5  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: CTR 2014 Results on: August 22, 2014, 11:41:07 AM
Hey Stefan,

I started on 8/8 @ 8:46 am and finished on 8/20 @ 6:45 pm, which calculates out to 12 Days, 9 Hrs, 59 Mins.  I'll post my writeup - pic dump once I decompress and debrief my thoughts.

I'm definitely glossing this over- but big thanks to you for organizing this event, everyone I met and rode with along the way, Toby Gadd for the track/waypoints to follow and the CTF for laying down the trail to make all this possible!  We're certainly living the dream out there!   thumbsup

Cheers and peace,

6  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: CTR 2014 - Race Discussion on: August 18, 2014, 01:04:29 AM
Finally made it to Silverton after four grueling days from bv.  Been riding with Jeff Taylor and another untracked rider Chris.  Luckily for us one of the bars was still open and we were able to score some late night vittles.  Had a good crash on the dirt road coming down off cataract.  Hoping to make Durango in two more days!  Man this course is a beast...   headbang
7  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: 2014 CTR Discussion on: August 08, 2014, 05:31:04 AM
Hi All,

I'm starting my ITT this morning about 8-ish from Waterton Canyon (friend is dropping me off on his way to work).  I registered with Trackleaders yesterday, so I should be visible at some point.

Good Luck to everyone!

8  Forums / Routes / Re: TransMichigan on: July 27, 2014, 04:57:06 PM
There's very little sand, I run a Rampage 29r 2.35 on the front and Saguaro 2.2 on the rear.  I've run Python 2.0 tires on the NCT before as well, without issues.

I'd say the fat bike would be fun, but kinda overkill if they're worried about sand.  Although there certainly are some small stretches where it would definitely be an advantage.
9  Forums / Routes / Re: TransMichigan on: July 27, 2014, 06:19:43 AM
When you right click and save as, you can always change the file extension to gpx.  Or after you download to your local computer.  From the link below, I just did the download to my computer and uploaded to my Etrex 30 w/o issues.  I'm on the Mac, so the path to the unit mount is this: /Volumes/GARMIN/Garmin/GPX , however if you're on Windows it will be something along the lines of <drive_letter>:\GARMIN\Garmin\GPX  Once downloaded you might want to change the names of the track(s) to something simple when you upload, or it will just have the name 'Track' in the selection window.  For instance, I changed the big loop to TMLOOP.gpx and that's the name it shows in the selection window on my Etrex.

I just put up a new post consolidating the tracks (so you don't have to scroll through the old posts).  These tracks also include all the relevant p2p waypoints into each file.  Here's the link:

I'm going to try and post some overview maps of the routes at some point in the next few days.

Post up if you have any more issues.

10  Forums / Routes / Re: TransMichigan on: July 11, 2014, 12:46:18 PM
Hey big_papa_nuts,

You'll want to download the gpx tracks to your computer (right click on track link -> save as) and open them in TopoFusion (download the free version at  The p2p route from White Cloud to Mackinaw City has been verified (post:  If you're looking to do the loop, the portion (~80 roadie ride) from Gaylord to Cadillac is not verified.  I was hoping to do the verification over the 4th of July weekend, but got distracted and rode to Higgins Lake via Grayling instead.

Does this help?  If you need more help/info, post up and I'll help the best I can.

11  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: AML 400 | Allegheny Mtns. Loop on: July 10, 2014, 10:59:32 AM
Yep, the Kent Square Parking Garage.

12  Forums / Routes / Re: TransMichigan on: April 22, 2014, 06:19:19 PM
New 'loop' route up on the TM site:

13  Forums / Routes / TransMichigan on: March 17, 2014, 03:15:07 PM
Preliminary data is now up for the 2014 TransMichigan route.  The numbers clock in at ~323 miles and 26,400' of ascent.  Foregoing accuracy, I'd say this route is ~ 65% singletrack and fairly flat, but there's definitely some hike-a-bike.

You can check out all the particulars here:

There's also interest in an organized event, which you can view here: and here:

14  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop dreaming on: February 23, 2014, 06:35:15 PM
Indeed, my Grand Loop thoughts are inescapable...  an incurable poison.

Definitely want to give it another go, but have been putting it off to see what happens with the Paradox changes and getting distracted by other routes/projects closer to home.

It would be nice to see renewed interest in the GLR, maybe this will be the year?  Like krefs said (and wookieone can attest to), there's some amazingly beautiful and remote country out there just begging to be explored.

Fifteen or so weeks to think about it...
15  Forums / Routes / Re: Michigan Upper Peninsula on: October 09, 2013, 02:01:31 PM
Hey jehsohn,

How did your trip go?  Did you happen to get a gps track from the route?

16  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Allegheny Mountains Loop 400 2013 Discussion on: October 08, 2013, 12:53:49 PM
Wow, what an awesome time, route and group of competitors!  Definitely a must do east coast classic.  headbang

Here's my writeup and pics from the event:

17  Forums / Routes / Re: Michigan Upper Peninsula on: August 29, 2013, 01:50:21 PM
Great writeup Chad!  Now to add this to the TM route and ride from the Ohio border -> Copper Harbor!
18  Forums / Routes / Re: Michigan Upper Peninsula on: July 25, 2013, 12:44:58 PM
Little bump to poke at Chad for getting his trip report done.   headbang
19  Forums / Bikepacking / Re: NCT in the LP of Michigan on: January 16, 2013, 12:18:01 PM
Hey Dallas,

Not that I'm aware of.  I rode the entire route (S->N) over two full moon fever weekends in the fall and only skipped two sections, taking the roads instead.

They were:

- ~10 miles of Wilderness State Park, from Sturgeon Bay (Lakeview Road) to just outside Mackinaw City where I picked up the rail trail into town.  Excuse: Sand.

- The small section from M-115 <-> M-37 where the trail skirts around the town of Mesick. Excuse: Excessive bushwhacking.

I will probably start riding the trail again sometime in March or April if the snow clears out, so if I hear or see anything new, I'll post up.  I do see that they have updated several of the maps since I purchased mine.  Here's the link:

Your route sounds like a good one!  Have a great time!


Here's the post at the Kipp Road trailhead.

20  Forums / Ultra Racing / Re: Grand Loop ridden like a girl on: June 08, 2012, 06:08:26 AM
Excellent job ladies!   thumbsup
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