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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race on: January 13, 2010, 09:50:15 AM
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Mexico to Utah.  ~750 miles.  80,000+ feet of climbing.

Longest singletrack bike race in the world.

Mandatory 21 mile portage across the Grand Canyon. You will suffer.  

April 23rd, 2010, 6:30am, Border of US/Mexico.  Concurrent start with the Arizona Trail 300.







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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #1 on: January 13, 2010, 10:00:35 AM
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2010, 10:00:35 AM »

Holy Bejeezus...


An 18 mile hike?  Wow.. ... Im speechless...
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #2 on: January 13, 2010, 02:05:29 PM
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2010, 02:05:29 PM »

Right on !!
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #3 on: January 13, 2010, 03:10:52 PM
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2010, 03:10:52 PM »

Saaaweeeeeeeet!

I am a "maybe" at this point.



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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #4 on: January 13, 2010, 03:31:57 PM
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2010, 03:31:57 PM »

I think its 21 miles actually Scott has a tendency to see everything in track miles. The park service pamphlet I had called it 21 the official guide calls it 21.4 but hay whats a mere 3.4 miles. It's not like you are carrying your bike on your back. Oh wait you are! Oh and look at the profile it's the biggest change in elevation of the whole route. Wish I could join you.  
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #5 on: January 13, 2010, 03:41:21 PM
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2010, 03:41:21 PM »

oh god its like hiking from molino to the top of lemmon..... except steeper...... and with a bike on your back icon_puke_l

So scott does that mean you're going to step up to the plate again?  icon_biggrin
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #6 on: January 13, 2010, 04:52:18 PM
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2010, 04:52:18 PM »

So scott does that mean you're going to step up to the plate again?  icon_biggrin
no matter how often 'conflict of interest' is asserted by the 'outside world', any self-supported, multi-day MTB race organizer worth his/her salt leads by example (at least on the 'inaugural').
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #7 on: January 13, 2010, 05:46:54 PM
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2010, 05:46:54 PM »

I always wondered if it would be legal to carry a bicycle across Grand Canyon National Park ... even on one's back?

35-50 pounds of dead weight aside, the North and South Kaibab trails are pretty mellow hikes. Even if they do lose and gain ~5,500 feet of elevation, I'm doubtful that this is even close to the worst this sufferfest will surely dole out.

Have fun, ya'll!
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010, 05:47:38 PM
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010, 05:47:38 PM »

Dammit, Scott.  I wasn't going to head down to AZ this spring, but you just had to throw this at the world.  

I do have some damn comfortable hike-a-bike shoes, but I'm not sure my little arms could carry a couple 29er wheels for 20 miles.  

Put me down as a possibly maybe.
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #9 on: January 13, 2010, 05:53:33 PM
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2010, 05:53:33 PM »

no matter how often 'conflict of interest' is asserted by the 'outside world', any self-supported, multi-day MTB race organizer worth his/her salt leads by example (at least on the 'inaugural').

That's a call out if I've ever seen one!  Man, what a monster.  My heart beats faster just thinking of it.
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #10 on: January 13, 2010, 05:55:44 PM
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2010, 05:55:44 PM »

Scott does already hold the record for this route, though.  I'm not sure he's obligated to race it this year given that he's already got the time to beat!
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #11 on: January 13, 2010, 05:57:46 PM
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2010, 05:57:46 PM »

That's true.  Maybe he should repost his original trip on here for all to see.  I remember the first time I read it.  Blew me away.  Talk about guts.  Man...
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #12 on: January 13, 2010, 06:20:06 PM
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2010, 06:20:06 PM »

Scott does already hold the record for this route, though.  I'm not sure he's obligated to race it this year given that he's already got the time to beat!
That's true.  Maybe he should repost his original trip on here for all to see.  I remember the first time I read it.  Blew me away.  Talk about guts.  Man...
that his pilot run was at 'race-pace' is exactly what he'd have you believe of that 'tour'!
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #13 on: January 13, 2010, 06:23:23 PM
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2010, 06:23:23 PM »

Scott does already hold the record for this route, though.  I'm not sure he's obligated to race it this year given that he's already got the time to beat!

I suspect this route is different than either of his previous thru rides. New route, new trails, new record.
Nice work Scott.
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #14 on: January 13, 2010, 06:29:20 PM
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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2010, 06:29:20 PM »

Ha. Ouch.

Should I pack snowshoes for the section at ~560 miles that tops out at 8k'?  What about the North Rim?  
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #15 on: January 13, 2010, 07:30:48 PM
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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2010, 07:30:48 PM »

Quote from: jonesy
So scott does that mean you're going to step up to the plate again?

Oh yes.  I would not have 'put it out in the world' if not intending to participate.  I do reserve the right to switch to the 300 if I can't get any takers.  Smiley  I've ITT'd it already.

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I suspect this route is different than either of his previous thru rides. New route, new trails, new record.
Nice work Scott.

Yuri hit the nail.  Significantly harder route than what I raced in '05.  Significantly easier than what Lee B. and I fought through in '05.  The aim with this route is to strike a balance.

New route, new record up for grabs.

I always wondered if it would be legal to carry a bicycle across Grand Canyon National Park ... even on one's back?

Legal, yep.  Wheels cannot touch the ground is what the head ranger told me.

35-50 pounds of dead weight aside, the North and South Kaibab trails are pretty mellow hikes. Even if they do lose and gain ~5,500 feet of elevation, I'm doubtful that this is even close to the worst this sufferfest will surely dole out.

Yeah, I'll bet that by itself it's not too serious a hike.  I suspect it's the sudden shift from pedaling 600 miles to backpacking that causes the grief, but also the intrigue.

Quote from: AZTTripper
I think its 21 miles actually...

Thanks for the correction.  It seems more like 30...

Quote from: various
Maaaybe...

Keep the maybe's comin'.
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #16 on: January 13, 2010, 08:35:51 PM
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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2010, 08:35:51 PM »

Beautiful!
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #17 on: January 13, 2010, 08:43:05 PM
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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2010, 08:43:05 PM »

Very interested.
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #18 on: January 13, 2010, 11:18:27 PM
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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2010, 11:18:27 PM »

Yeah, I'll bet that by itself it's not too serious a hike.  I suspect it's the sudden shift from pedaling 600 miles to backpacking that causes the grief, but also the intrigue.

Good point. The first time I hiked rim to rim in the Grand Canyon, in 2004, I was certain it was going to be the hardest single day of effort I ever embarked on. Ha ha ha.

If I try to conceptualize the Arizona Trail Race, from what little I know about the Arizona Trail, I feel like bike-portaging through the Grand Canyon would be a highlight. After a few hundred miles of intermittent but frequent hike-a-bikes skirting that frustrating edge of rideable, I know I for one would be grateful just to throw the useless thing on my back and walk free. But that's just me. :-)
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  Topic Name: First Ever Arizona Trail Race Reply #19 on: January 13, 2010, 11:30:41 PM
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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2010, 11:30:41 PM »

This is awesome. I'm with Jill, can you sign up just for the bike carry section?
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