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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking on: August 25, 2012, 05:36:44 AM
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« on: August 25, 2012, 05:36:44 AM »

First Bikepacking / Overnight Trip in the San Bernardino National Forest

I am an adrenaline junky & love to live life. It all started with riding bikes with the guys after work & quickly snowballed into a passion. Whether it was mountain biking, road biking or leisure biking with my wife, I couldn’t get enough. I started researching different types of riding and racing & soon stumbled upon bikepacking. I ran into a guy at an event that sold gear for bikepacking. In speaking with him, I found out his wife actually rode the Continental Divide on a mountain bike with all of her gear; sleeping bag, tent, food & all, right on her bike! This of course led me to the Internet to find all I could about it, which wasn’t too much. But I found it so interesting & thought back to my days in the Marine Corps with the adventure & camaraderie. I started talking to my buddies about bikepacking and they expressed a general interest. So being the pleasure seeker I am, I loaded the wife and myself in the car to scout out some locations.Just to test the waters, a few of my faithful riding buddies, Hegie & Wes, decided to join me in an “epic” pre-ride just to calibrate the difficulty level for the rest of the gang. Call it poor timing on Mother Nature’s part, but we ended up walking in snow up to our knees, pushing the bikes & damn near hypothermia. We weren’t able to complete the ride due to the fact, we were cold, miserable & it was getting dark. Twelve hours later, we found our tires hitting the home base driveway. Being the persistent nut I am, I knew that it could be done in better circumstances. I started ordering my gear, researching techniques & tips & finally marked my calendar: June 22, 2012. I put the word out with a few takers & in the end, they all fell out like dominos. So it was just my die-hard posse & I: my lovely wife, Tiffany & my furry sons, Shadow & Jax. I packed my gear, which consisted of a sleeping bag, a sleeping pad, a tent, a compact stove, a small mess kit & some food for the journey. I initially was going to ride my single speed for weight purposes but my gear ended up weighing around 20.5 lbs & was able to load it onto my Cannondale Flash. Everything was a go & of course, with all the excitement, I couldn’t sleep & ended up sleeping through the alarm! Finally, at 7:25 am, I bid a-do to the homestead & began to pedal. What a beautiful morning for a ride! It was so nice & cool with a light morning fog. It was just what I needed to help out on my epic 30-mile uphill climb. I’m riding along, feeling incredible; people are waving…almost like my own personal send off!My wife had headed out after me with the dogs in tow in the loaded SUV. First stop, ice for the cooler. Then, the ranger’s station for a fire permit. Next, the bumpy fire road up to the yellow post site atop of Thomas Mountain. She set up camp & patiently waited.Now I’ve made it to the base of Baustisa Canyon Road where I see my photo-op.

For those who know me, know that I am a bit self-absorbed & love pictures of myself not only for me but to show & tell just like in kindergarten. “Welcome to the San Bernardino National Forest”. I pulled out my tri pond and took a few pictures & away I went.I started to see quite a few Cal-Fire trucks and hoped there wasn’t a fire. Luckily, it just turned out that they were just clearing brush. So they waved and I smiled and rode on. Maybe a mile or two down the road, out of the bush jumps this crazed guy that had nothing on but what appeared to be a loincloth. He was about thirty feet from me and he said, “Mister! Hey mister! Stop! Do you got any water? I haven’t had any water all day.” Since it was only around 8:20 am, the day hadn’t been too long. Plus, there is a prison right in the area. Who knows, he could be an escapee! I told the poor guy, I had to ration my own water & didn’t have any for him but will let the Cal-Fire folks know that he was in need of some water. He proceeded to follow me and the story elaborated into him being jumped & dumped out here. I guess his day was going to continue to suck because I pushed harder to put the distance between us.The surface streets came to an end & the dirt road begans.


Alas, the true fun! All of the sudden, the morning fog dissipates & the good ol’ Southern California sun rears it’s head, blasting right down on me.

The easiest gears started to feel like I was pushing led. I was mentally psyching myself pretty much ¾ of the way. It was hill after hill after hill! Imagine 16 damn climbs in row. That was my life for the next 6+ hours. Boy, did I gravely miscalculate my route’s difficulty. But if I could get through this, I would be a God…a Mountain God! I was on no time clock & would have all the time I needed to recover at camp & that’s what kept me going!Nature is an incredible thing! Outside of “Tarzan”, as we coined the loincloth man, things started to cross my path that led to awe & personal insight. It was so serene & peaceful. The lizards were quick runners & almost the size of small cats. Amazing types of colorful butterflies that I’ve never seen but I wasn’t fast enough to the camera so my mental pictures are all that I have. The picturesque views were spectacular! I could see the Palomar Observatory from the road.

Open fields & valleys surrounded by breath-taking mountains all around.

It was a little intimidating being in the midst of such seclusion & I began to think of my comrades & wish they had made the journey with me. As quickly as the personal reflection hit, so did the thought, ‘What the hell am I doing out here, in the middle of nowhere with just me & my bike & damn, it’s hot!’ My legs hurt. Hot! It was freakin’ hot & this bike just keeps getting harder to move. But there was no turning back. I said to myself, I am going to finish this thing or search & rescue would be recovering my body because, I never surrender! My philosophy is if you think it you must do it. So I pressed on and thought I have done a lot worse than this. Funny thing, the worse and best part was doing this ride by myself. I thought that I was doing something not many people can claim to have done but it would’ve been nice to have shared the experience with someone else. Kind of like, ‘Remember when we thought we were Great explorers…’I kept pressing on. I knew it was getting late and my wife probably getting worried and I needed to get to camp because guess what I forgot to pack…flashlights! I could finally see the area that I needed to get to but looks can be deceiving. The thought of my wife & dogs running to greet me & welcome me to a camp chair & cold beverage kept my spirits high. I started to get into a thicker, wooded area. I heard a loud noise come from the brush. I thought, mountain lion. Please no! I stopped, dismounted & kept quiet to see how this would play out. Well, it turned out to be herd of deer running. There were about 5 or 6 of them. I tried to get my camera out I snapped a fast picture.

So I got back on bike and continued on my journey. Maybe mile up the road I found out what the deer were running from. About 50 feet in front of me I saw this huge bobcat walk across the road and it had attitude. I got off my bike, put my bike in front of me, ready to toss it at him if I need to and made myself look big (imagine that!). The bobcat looked at me with a dirty look like this my hood, you best keep moving and then, walked into the forest. So I slowly walked my bike keeping bike between me the forest and kept looking all around until I felt safe. Then, I got my bike started riding as fast I as I could like the devil was on my tail! Now I was about 5 miles from camp and finally, my first human encounter. A motorcycle rider was coming down the hill and stopped to ask if I was all right and do I need him to call ranger or something. I told him I was fine (duh, I’m doing this on purpose…for fun!) and I was just going up to the camping area. I guess I must have looked pretty haggard or something for him to express concern. Apparently he was much nicer than I was to “Tarzan”!
It seemed like it took forever to get to the top of the mountain where camp was to be. I wasn’t sure which campsite my wife was at since it was a first-come, first-serve basis. Part of me hoped that she didn’t get the yellow post site that was at the tip of the mountain, even though that was our first choice. But by this time my legs were rubber and I was dog-ass exhausted.

I was pushing the bike at this point & I passed the top of the Ramona Trail, which is another journey for another day (which will come). Then, through the clearing, I saw my wife and dogs. The wife cheered & yelled, “Papa’s here!” to get the dogs rallied.  I got back on my bike, excited I was just feet away from the finish & was met half way by the Boys. She snapped a quick shot with her cell phone and greeted me with a high-five.

She had a cold washcloth ready & an ice-cold beverage quickly served. I spent the next hour giving her the details the adventure.Once my bearings came to, I made my self some Recoverite of 4 scoops in my big water bottle because my muscles were screaming. I sat down and rested.
The wife told about her adventure on setting up camp.



She had trouble with the fly on the tent. So I proceeded fix that while she got out the chips and dip. I made a welcoming campfire

where we cooked hotdogs for dinner. After that we talked, watched the sunset


and made s’mores.



Once the sun set, it was down right cold & being the native Southern California my wife is, she had brought no warm clothes but luckily I had packed a few windbreakers in my gear. I was super tired & the cold air with little warmth other than the campfire gave me a good excuse to turn in for an early night. Of course, the wind was howling away & the air mattress that us rough campers brought had a hole & slowly deflated while we tried to sleep. We truly found how hard the ground really is. My wife slept on her shoulder wrong and conveniently couldn’t lift her arm to help take stuff down so I had to forfeit the ride downhill to pack up camp and drive us home. Since the family went camping, I didn’t use any of the gear I brought but at least I went through all the motions so when I convince all my buddies that together, this will be an unforgettable adventure!All in all, it was worth the sweat, the tired, rubber legs, the bobcat & even “Tarzan”. What I learned from this bikepacking experience is I definitely need a sleeping pad under my sleeping bag for comfort. I will give my compact one a whirl on the next go-round. I needed to bring a sweatshirt & sweats or some sort of pants for camp that is light to carry. Chili! And hot cocoa too! Also some more water and some kind mix for the water. And then there was a separate pair of shoes that weren’t bicycle shoes or flip-flops but a pair that I could keep my feet warm and wear around camp. Oh yeah, bug spray too! The bugs & flies on the trail were pretty bad. Other than those very few, minute things, all was good. I will just have to go on another bikepacking trip to hammer out this stuff out. Are you in? I look forward to pedaling the journey with you. See on the trail!
Here all the photos if you want to see them on FB http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.413881321987164.85694.100000958995763&type=1&l=2930768480
Also here is the route http://connect.garmin.com/activity/191898941
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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #1 on: September 02, 2012, 12:27:09 AM
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2012, 12:27:09 AM »

Very nice read! I can relate as i have recently discovered "bikepacking" and have started the same bit of research. I Have plenty of camping gear but no bags for the bike. Already found a customer maker to fit one to my FS bike to utilize every bit of space around that rear shock.

I plan on doing an easy overnight at a local state park to get a feel for the bag weights, bike handling, and gear checklist.
From there i plan on doing an epic weekend at a huge park in my state that has over 100 miles of trails!

Thank you for your story!

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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #2 on: September 04, 2012, 04:35:04 AM
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2012, 04:35:04 AM »

Good read.  I've got my fist trip coming up in 2 days and it will be a bit like yours with my wife coming along a couple of days into the trip in the SUV with the supplies that I cant carry on my week long tour.  I will be documenting it and do a full writeup with video upon my return........that is if I return.
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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #3 on: September 07, 2012, 11:47:35 PM
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2012, 11:47:35 PM »

Nice sounds good. I have since went on another trip this time I met up with some friends that were camping for the weekend and biking. But they drove and I rode up there and used my gear. here some pics.


Me and my rig






my tent wasn't sure I wanted to spend alot of money. But I ended up buying new one that is half the weight.

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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #4 on: September 19, 2012, 02:24:56 PM
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2012, 02:24:56 PM »

Hello abhemet

I've been mtb'ing for several years and done long off-road trips in Scotland (with panniers on, tent,stove,food for 5 days) including Oban to Aberdeen, but that was when I had my Kona.

I now have a Cannondale Flash Lefty and was delighted to see the set-up on yours...

I can't get panniers on it, and after reading posts on here I don't want to put them on..

Really keen on this idea of bike-packing and as soon as I can get the right set-up I'll be off...

A few questions:
You have a seat bag, handlebar bag,frame bag, backpack.

Does that include a tent or tarp, stove, water, spares etc. ?

Can you point me in the right direction as to where I can buy gear like yours ? (I live in UK but that should not be a problem)

Cheers

Eric Robinson

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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #5 on: September 19, 2012, 06:14:05 PM
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2012, 06:14:05 PM »

Hello Ericrobo, yes there is tent, sleeping pad I put them in the handle bar. my tools pump, spare tube, patch kit and tripod are in the framebag. In the seatbag I have my sleeping bag, stove, cookware, raingear, extra clothes and some other misc. stuff. I also use hydration backpack by camelbak H.a.w.g. in there is where I have 100oz bladder, water filter, food, keys, and extra water bottle. Also the handle bar I have feedbag which can hold a water bottle or what ever goodies you like to bring. Also on the handle bar I have map pocket attached the sling. In the map pocket I have some maps lights headlight and some snacks. The frame bag by jandd http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FFP and other stuff you can get from Revelate Designs http://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm or jeremy in the stuff for sale area in the forums. I hope this what you want.
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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #6 on: September 20, 2012, 08:51:22 AM
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2012, 08:51:22 AM »

Thanks for the info Abhemet.

Another question if I may:

Did you have to re-route your cables to get the handlebar bag in place ? And if so were there any problems doing that ?
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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #7 on: September 20, 2012, 09:21:16 AM
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2012, 09:21:16 AM »

no I didn't reroute cables I just pushed them back I haven't had any problems yet. Didn't affect any shifting or braking. The only thing is when its loaded the brake pads wear pretty quickly with extra weight and my weight. I have been thinking about using different ones from the organic ones. Also I did purchase a new tent its a six moon designs Skyscape Trekker with carbon fiber tent poles, titanium stakes. Here is the link http://sixmoondesigns.com/tents/Trekker.html I haven't used it yet. I have only set it up in the back yard and seam seal it. I'm planning on doing overnight trip in October with a few friends.
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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #8 on: September 25, 2012, 09:34:36 AM
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2012, 09:34:36 AM »

Hi abhemet

I've not bought any gear yet, still researching and deciding... I have a small tent but it's 1.6kg (3.5lbs = 56ozs) - the one you have is 24ozs ! Incredible !
Do you think you can report back on it once you have used it ?

How do you like your Flash ? And have you got to grips with doing the 'needle-bearing re-set' on the Lefty fork ?

I think I have it cracked now, but first time I was too gentle and frightened of breaking something. You have to pull quite a bit to get the fork to extend to its full length...

Regards

Eric Robinson  England
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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #9 on: September 30, 2012, 05:13:01 AM
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2012, 05:13:01 AM »

haven't messed with fork yet.
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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #10 on: September 30, 2012, 08:38:00 AM
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2012, 08:38:00 AM »

here's a link which may be helpful

http://www.mbaction.com/Main/News/How_To_Service_Cannondales_Lefty_Fork_641.aspx

it's easy once you have done it.

When I tried first time it measured about 670mm, and I couldn't get it to 700mm (for 110mm travel)

here's a link to a Russian guy resetting it (you don't have to know Russian ! it gives a good idea of what you do...)

CANNONDALE LEFTY NEEDLE BEARING RESET


Let me know about your tent... eventually !

Cheers

Eric
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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #11 on: September 30, 2012, 09:49:35 AM
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2012, 09:49:35 AM »

here's a link which may be helpful

http://www.mbaction.com/Main/News/How_To_Service_Cannondales_Lefty_Fork_641.aspx

it's easy once you have done it.

When I tried first time it measured about 670mm, and I couldn't get it to 700mm (for 110mm travel)

here's a link to a Russian guy resetting it (you don't have to know Russian ! it gives a good idea of what you do...)

CANNONDALE LEFTY NEEDLE BEARING RESET

Let me know about your tent... eventually !

Cheers

Eric



Is it me or is this video disturbing? Just something wrong about a dude working on his bike in his tighty whities...
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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #12 on: September 30, 2012, 10:10:19 AM
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2012, 10:10:19 AM »

Yes I agree !!

He needs to get some pants on !!  (stiff upper lip over here you know...)

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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #13 on: October 01, 2012, 11:39:21 AM
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2012, 11:39:21 AM »

I rode the CTR with a Lefty. Worked great. I used a Revelate Sling with a dry bag. I didn't need to shorten or lengthen cables--I just put the bag on, tightened everything up, and it worked great.

Resetting a Lefty takes about 2 minutes. Unlike the pantless guy, I put my bike on a stand, and do it that way since holding the bike up with one hand while pulling down the wheel is awkward. The key is to measure carefully--and pull the wheel down hard enough to move the bearings, but not so hard that you ram them past the clips. Mr. Pantless did it just right. Let the air out of your shock before removing the top "nut."
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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #14 on: October 08, 2012, 12:05:10 AM
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2012, 12:05:10 AM »

Good reading. Thank for sharing. Did you actually let Cal-Fire folks know about men in need of water or you did not?
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  Topic Name: My first overnight test run bikepacking Reply #16 on: October 21, 2012, 06:49:21 AM
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2012, 06:49:21 AM »

He was going in the direction of the Cal fire people. I'm sure he ran into them. This Friday I will be going on another bikepacking adventure this time with couple of buddy's at least as far as I know today. Just a overnight and coming back the next day. Stuff always changes duriing the week. It could be solo by friday. Thats what happened the last couple of times. I will have to wait and see. Anyway this one will be self support no wife waiting at the campsite with food, no cushy camp ground with shower like on the second one. I got New tent to try out. I got myself a Six moon designs Trekker with carbon fiber tent poles and titaium tent stakes. Its spinkling right now I hope clears up by friday. I will do another report on this trip when I get back. Hopefully its a little less like a circus and more strait forward. Like everybody elses I have been reading. Also Thanks to all who took the time to read my RR. One day I would like to go with someone that is a experienced bikepacker. This trial and error stuff is fun. But I would like to learn some stuff from expericenced bikepacker out on the trail. All my knowlege thus far has been from forums and a book from before 2000, RR,  and blogs. Don't get me wrong all this stuff has helped alot. It would be nice to have Master Jedi Bikepacker to show me the ropes.
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